Spawn Camping?????

**jagged** · #1 10-04-2008, 10:19 PM

What is your thoughts on spawn camping? We were getting off topic on the other thread so I will start this one. Personally I hate it, only 2 places to spawn and you ( or who ever ) camps the most used on. If you have the intel, I understand bu at no other time should you be there just sitting and killing. One other reason to be there is to kill an NGs gun. That's just my opinion.

**EvanAzzo** · #2 10-04-2008, 10:41 PM

As an scout runs down the to get the intel and come back out sure spawn camp. But after hes out leave. don't keep spawn camping until he can cap and come back. That's when it gets annoying.

**Jack** · #3 10-05-2008, 12:12 AM

I'm fine with it as long as you use the opportunity. Plus it makes the other team mad. An angry player is a bad player in my opinion.

**Udders** · #4 10-05-2008, 02:40 AM

Personally I dont think there is anything wrong with spawn camping at any time.

If you find it acceptable on 2fort as long as someone is going for the intel then really speaking you must find it acceptable on all maps as long as someone is going for the objective.... say like goldrush no ?? same thing , same reason just a different map.

As I said I dont have a problem with it at any time , especially when playing against a team that refuses to do any attacking.

Anyway ... there are plenty of ways to combat it. Yeah you might get killed once by it , maybe twice , but if you cant find a way out of the situation with unlimited health , ammo and class changes by life 3 then there is something wrong somewhere.

So , although I rarely do it , I have no problems with it being done.

**The Verge** · #5 10-05-2008, 03:11 AM

I find it fine if it is done once in a while for one cap or so. Usually if I spawn camp it's as a heavy, and as soon as someone has the intel and is out of the room I stop, even though I usually get killed doing so.

**StabMasterArson** · #6 10-05-2008, 07:06 PM

Personal reasons for camping the spawn may vary from player to player but we can all admit we do it and it's acceptable. Constant camping? No. In conjunction with a task? Sure. Taking down hayloft sentries from the battlements , you're damn right i sticky that main spawn door 1st..don't want any of you ruining the evil plot now do we? have jack,wolfman,grump or any of the others covering the 2nd spawn on the battlements or covering it for them, yes. I tend to get my medics killed and learn to adjust to not having one. Somebody camps your battlements and you're a soldier in the secondary spawn? hit the drop-down spawn, rocket jump back up your battlements & lay waste or buy time for your teammates to finish it (except when cloud or seal is sniping in this case be a smart sissy & shoot from the water). The thing that gets me irritated about the camping is that when some players escape not enough of them come back to help break the camp. Most often i see spies do this ( not any of the regular spies on the server, what there are maybe 7 of us..). They just trot off to the enemy base touch the intel and it does nothing but distract the sniper or engie sitting bored in their base. Most times it takes teamwork of some sort to camp the spawn and takes teamwork to break it. That's what the stacked team has the other team doesn't. The auto-balance issue is teamwork related as is this one and sadly it's something we've been missing more and more lately.

Junction

**EvanAzzo** · #7 10-05-2008, 07:11 PM

On a possible related note
Yesterday verge and I witnessed a player (a pyro) airblasting enemies stickies into out spawn room and then telling him when to detonate them.

Now is that considered appropriate or not.

**Cloudsgirl** · #8 10-06-2008, 12:28 AM

Well thats teamwork haha. I suppose it depends on the situation. Doing it to get the intel out, it's probably okay. Doing it just to get kills? Ahhh no.

I hate spawn camping no matter what, because it annoys the crap out of me to walk out 15 seconds after getting killed just to get killed again. By no means am I a good player, and this doesn't help. So, if it's to just to get your score up, then it's bad sportsmanship and shouldn't be done. I don't really know any regulars who do it just to be asses, but that doesn't mean there arn't people who do do it.

**StabMasterArson** · #9 10-06-2008, 04:33 AM

well evan , you can shoot nades rockets and bullets into the spawn i don't see why that would be any different. was it one of your teammates blowing enemy stickies into the spawn? if so that guy is a douchebage if not it is bad, maybe a little worse than normal camping just because you can wait till the whole team is over them and the door opens, but crits happen as well. I think 90% of the time when i actually shoot a crit it's into the open enemy spawn door while trying to hold the spiral. so is it really any worse than a heavy or a soldier at the top of the spiral throwing crits? although when i first read that about the pyro & the demo it made me laugh it's not something i would personally do.

**The Verge** · #10 10-06-2008, 04:35 AM

well, he was a friendly pyro killing his own teamates